{"id":9673,"date":"2022-10-05T01:10:13","date_gmt":"2022-10-05T05:10:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/marcstier.com\/blog2\/?p=9673"},"modified":"2022-10-05T01:21:10","modified_gmt":"2022-10-05T05:21:10","slug":"back-travails-part","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/marcstier.com\/blog2\/?p=9673","title":{"rendered":"Back travails, part ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-9675 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/marcstier.com\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/416265_10150932467908241_1664063728_o-e1664947238288-850x478.jpg?resize=263%2C148&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"263\" height=\"148\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/marcstier.com\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/416265_10150932467908241_1664063728_o-e1664947238288.jpg?resize=850%2C478&amp;ssl=1 850w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/marcstier.com\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/416265_10150932467908241_1664063728_o-e1664947238288.jpg?resize=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/marcstier.com\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/416265_10150932467908241_1664063728_o-e1664947238288.jpg?resize=250%2C141&amp;ssl=1 250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/marcstier.com\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/416265_10150932467908241_1664063728_o-e1664947238288.jpg?zoom=2&amp;resize=263%2C148&amp;ssl=1 526w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/marcstier.com\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/416265_10150932467908241_1664063728_o-e1664947238288.jpg?zoom=3&amp;resize=263%2C148&amp;ssl=1 789w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 263px) 100vw, 263px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">The short version: After truly excruciating pain last weekend, a course of steroids and pain killers has started to get things under control this weekend. I\u2019m hoping that in another week or so and I\u2019ll be ok again.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">The long version:<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Two weeks ago I was recovering from surgery really well. One day I told my wife at the end of the day that I hadn\u2019t thought about my neck or back at all and hadn\u2019t taken a pain killer in three days. All the various aches and pains had pretty much dissipated.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Then two days later something happened. And last Thursday something else happened. The pain was in all the same places I had it before surgery\u2014under my right arm, in my right shoulder blade and shoulder, shooting down by triceps, at my elbow and in my hand. But qualitatively it was very different. Instead of occasional burning, shooting and tingling stuff, it was throbbing and aching constantly. I was in agony with the worst pain I had experienced in years. I was taking narcotics more than once a day for the first time ever.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">The only good news is that the weakness in my grip which resolved after surgery had not returned.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">I talked to the surgeon. He said get an MRI and start taking steroids to control the inflammation<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">The MRI showed no new problems. The surgeon concluded that most likely I had somehow aggravated by my musculature with some random movement causing inflammation, pressure on nerves, and then spasming. He thought a course of steroids would relieve the inflammation and pain in a week or two and then I\u2019d be ok. And if not, that meant there was some structural issue creating pressure on the nerve at C7-T1. He said he might have to do an anterior cervical surgery which would enable him to find it.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Luckily things are moving in the right direction. Streoids and Naprosyn are helping with pain. And I finally found a way to sleep that reduces pain and stress allowing me to heal at night. So things seem to be resolving and hopefully will fully resolve by the end of the week. If I need it to help the process along, I\u2019m also going to get a steroid injection in cervical spine.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Then when I\u2019m feeling good again, I\u2019m going to go back to PT to try to help the process of both reducing any remaining muscle spasm and strengthening by neck, back, and arm so that I\u2019m less likely to set the problems off again in the movements of daily life.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Fingers crossed!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Post-scripts<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<p>1.Aside the pain and exhaustion it causes, what\u2019s really annoying me is that I have not been able to play my trumpet. (Even if I could stand the sound of the plastic one I bought, I\u2019m afraid to put any pressure on my neck or back now.) I really miss playing. And It\u2019s going to take months to get my chops back in shape again<\/p>\n<div class=\"xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">2. Sorry to hear about your sister. I&#8217;ve done all that stuff-ice, heat, some type of topical medication and PT- and it helps sometimes. And then sometimes&#8211;luckily not often for me&#8211; almost nothing will stop the pain.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">I don&#8217;t get any allergic reaction to steroids. But they are not good for my blood pressure or blood sugar. They make it hard to sleep sometimes. And they make me feel weird!!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">I&#8217;ve been using medical marijuana for a couple of weeks. One kind tends to help inflammation another with sleep. And the sleep inducing one helps counter the effect of the steroids.<\/p>\n<div class=\"xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<p>3. Thanks,\u00a0<a class=\"x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv xzsf02u x1s688f\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/kay.bogdan?__cft__[0]=AZU76KLJ9xHSKGKSkrMTZHC0U6DmkvyGscRjUVq5KyJlPIQR9X92MmM9lxoFxb3c7_KWNZBG3BBKIfpS2A05i5DCd-xBGuQC3XRHcHArM5FVckh3bvaNMO7Wowg--kghjlLHjafZBJbYEuO_HaRLL2kz&amp;__tn__=R]-R\"><span class=\"xt0psk2\">Kay Bogdan<\/span><\/a>\u00a0I&#8217;m trying not to blame my mom, from whom I inherited this condition! Actually I have to give her credit. She lived with this for almost two decades when the surgical techniques were not advanced enough or available to help her. I didn&#8217;t quite realize what a trooper she was.<\/p>\n<p>4. <a class=\"x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv xzsf02u x1s688f\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/mjonathan.garzillo?__cft__[0]=AZU76KLJ9xHSKGKSkrMTZHC0U6DmkvyGscRjUVq5KyJlPIQR9X92MmM9lxoFxb3c7_KWNZBG3BBKIfpS2A05i5DCd-xBGuQC3XRHcHArM5FVckh3bvaNMO7Wowg--kghjlLHjafZBJbYEuO_HaRLL2kz&amp;__tn__=R]-R\"><span class=\"xt0psk2\">M Jonathan Garzillo<\/span><\/a>\u00a0Thanks. The \u00a0consensus among the neuro-surgeon who operated on me, the now retired orthopedic surgeon in the past who has been advising me, and my sports med doc. They al think think is a temporary setback.<\/p>\n<div class=\"x1iorvi4 xjkvuk6 x1lliihq\">\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">One of the weird things about this episode is that the locations of the pain are the same but the quality of them is so different&#8211;and worse.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">No one has spelled it out to me in this way, but the impression I&#8217;m have \u00a0is that after getting some relief from the impingement on the nerve at c7-t1, the nerves going down my back, arm, wrist, and hand were gradually recovering and leading to the the shooting, burning, and tingling pains to gradually disappear. \u00a0Then, whatever set off this recent episode&#8211;perhaps some kind of muscle strain caused spasming that again caused impingement on the same nerve which set off those recovering areas but in a different way. And now, that the steroids are reducing the inflammation and impingement, they are recovering.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<p>Does this make sense?<\/p>\n<p>5. Thanks for saying yes that there is more than one way to impinge a nerve, Jonathan. I really appreciate the good advice you have given me&#8211;when prompted!\u00a0<span class=\"x3nfvp2 x1j61x8r x1fcty0u xdj266r xhhsvwb xat24cr xgzva0m xxymvpz xlup9mm x1kky2od\"><span class=\"x3nfvp2 x1j61x8r x1fcty0u xdj266r xhhsvwb xat24cr xgzva0m xxymvpz xlup9mm x1kky2od\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/static.xx.fbcdn.net\/images\/emoji.php\/v9\/tf6\/2\/16\/1f609.png\" alt=\"?\" width=\"16\" height=\"16\" \/>\u00a0This stuff is not totally easy to understand for someone with no medical training&#8230;or even for my wife, a psychiatrist who still really knows internal medicine but hasn&#8217;t serious thought about spine and muscle issues in almost 40 years!<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>From:<span class=\"xt0psk2\"><span class=\"x3nfvp2\"><span class=\"x193iq5w xeuugli x13faqbe x1vvkbs xlh3980 xvmahel x1n0sxbx x1lliihq x1s928wv xhkezso x1gmr53x x1cpjm7i x1fgarty x1943h6x x4zkp8e x676frb x1pg5gke x1sibtaa x1s688f xzsf02u\" dir=\"auto\"><a class=\"x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz x1heor9g xt0b8zv\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/mjonathan.garzillo?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoxMDE1OTUzMDE5MjUxMzI0MV82NjI1NzQxNTg0NTMxOTQ%3D&amp;__cft__[0]=AZU76KLJ9xHSKGKSkrMTZHC0U6DmkvyGscRjUVq5KyJlPIQR9X92MmM9lxoFxb3c7_KWNZBG3BBKIfpS2A05i5DCd-xBGuQC3XRHcHArM5FVckh3bvaNMO7Wowg--kghjlLHjafZBJbYEuO_HaRLL2kz&amp;__tn__=R]-R\" aria-hidden=\"false\">M Jonathan Garzillo <\/a><\/span><\/span><\/span>It\u2019s tough for us to understand, and we do it all day. Musculoskeletal diagnosis is a very grey thing, more so than most of us tend to admit. More often than not, the frustration a patient feels that they\u2019re not quite 100% sure what\u2019s going on with their pain is a frustration we share.<\/p>\n<p>6. A<a class=\"x1i10hfl xjbqb8w x6umtig x1b1mbwd xaqea5y xav7gou x9f619 x1ypdohk xt0psk2 xe8uvvx xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r xexx8yu x4uap5 x18d9i69 xkhd6sd x16tdsg8 x1hl2dhg xggy1nq x1a2a7pz xt0b8zv xzsf02u x1s688f\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100011346903853&amp;__cft__[0]=AZU76KLJ9xHSKGKSkrMTZHC0U6DmkvyGscRjUVq5KyJlPIQR9X92MmM9lxoFxb3c7_KWNZBG3BBKIfpS2A05i5DCd-xBGuQC3XRHcHArM5FVckh3bvaNMO7Wowg--kghjlLHjafZBJbYEuO_HaRLL2kz&amp;__tn__=R]-R\"><span class=\"xt0psk2\">gatha Andrews<\/span><\/a>\u00a0Yes, especially after I had such immediate relief after the last surgeries this was disappointing and scary. I was wondering if my luck had finally run out and that I was going to be living with this the rest of my life. Right now, that doesn&#8217;t seem to be the case!<\/p>\n<p>7. Midnight upate. I&#8217;ve gone without pain killers for about 24 hours. Only taking steroids. Very little pain. Just some tingling in my elbow and some soreness in the usual spots.<\/p>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Plan is to stay on the current dose of steroids for a few more days than do a gradual taper.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">And go back to PT.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The short version: After truly excruciating pain last weekend, a course of steroids and pain killers has started to get things under control this weekend. I\u2019m hoping that in another week or so and I\u2019ll be ok again. The long version: Two weeks ago I was recovering from surgery really well. One day I told my wife at the end of the day that I hadn\u2019t thought about my neck or back at all and hadn\u2019t taken a pain killer in three days. All the various aches and pains had pretty much dissipated. Then two days later something happened. And last Thursday something else happened. The pain was in all the same places I had it before surgery\u2014under my right arm, in my right shoulder blade and shoulder, shooting down by triceps, at my elbow and in my hand. But qualitatively it was very different. 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